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		<title>By: gsg</title>
		<link>http://www.lilithsaintcrow.com/journal/2010/02/good-news-and-amazonfail-wrapup/comment-page-2/#comment-59274</link>
		<dc:creator>gsg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I purchased a Nook from Barnes and Noble, and I can definitely see the difference between publishers who spend the time to correctly format the book for the ereader and those who don&#039;t.

I&#039;m someone who has always purchased Hardbacks for those authors that I really like.  So, I have no objections to paying more for a new release ebook up front (it&#039;s still cheaper than the paper version), than I&#039;d pay for one later, or about the time it would hit paperback.

The author has worked very hard to produce a product that I enjoy and that takes me to another world, and deserves my thanks, gratitude, and money for giving me that enjoyment!

Amazon has definitely turned into a big corporate bully flexing its muscles to force anyone that does business with it to conform to its rules, or else it&#039;s just not going to let you play on its playground.  Walmart has done something similar.  Smaller manufacturers can&#039;t get Walmart to carry it&#039;s products because they can&#039;t afford to jump through Walmart&#039;s hoops and meet their requirements they force on their suppliers.

So, I say avoid the bullies and play with the nice kids down the block!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I purchased a Nook from Barnes and Noble, and I can definitely see the difference between publishers who spend the time to correctly format the book for the ereader and those who don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m someone who has always purchased Hardbacks for those authors that I really like.  So, I have no objections to paying more for a new release ebook up front (it&#8217;s still cheaper than the paper version), than I&#8217;d pay for one later, or about the time it would hit paperback.</p>
<p>The author has worked very hard to produce a product that I enjoy and that takes me to another world, and deserves my thanks, gratitude, and money for giving me that enjoyment!</p>
<p>Amazon has definitely turned into a big corporate bully flexing its muscles to force anyone that does business with it to conform to its rules, or else it&#8217;s just not going to let you play on its playground.  Walmart has done something similar.  Smaller manufacturers can&#8217;t get Walmart to carry it&#8217;s products because they can&#8217;t afford to jump through Walmart&#8217;s hoops and meet their requirements they force on their suppliers.</p>
<p>So, I say avoid the bullies and play with the nice kids down the block!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been spending far too much time in the last few days arguing with other people on ebook sites such as Mobileread and trying to get across the idea that the way Amazon is handling the dispute makes them the bad guy.

Most of them are not willing to understand either that Amazon is doing the bullying or that ebooks are not free to create.

I won&#039;t go into DRM, save to say I&#039;m more on Scalzi and Buckell&#039;s side than yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been spending far too much time in the last few days arguing with other people on ebook sites such as Mobileread and trying to get across the idea that the way Amazon is handling the dispute makes them the bad guy.</p>
<p>Most of them are not willing to understand either that Amazon is doing the bullying or that ebooks are not free to create.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t go into DRM, save to say I&#8217;m more on Scalzi and Buckell&#8217;s side than yours.</p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Tobias - I prefer to go without DRM, but I will go along with it if it isn&#039;t too restrictive.

For example, I use eReader. Secure eReader books have to be unlocked with the credit card number that was used to purchase the book (something people are unlikely to share). There is no restriction on the number of devices I can use. I have gone through at least 6 hardware devices (handspring, 3-4 palms, ipod touch, and now a blackberry storm) and I haven&#039;t had to mess with activating or deactivating those devices. If the device is functional when I finish with it (not always a given), I just delete the old content before passing it on. That is what I consider reasonable DRM protection.

The Kindle is too restrictive for my tastes. Hardware choices are limited and I have to worry about the number of devices I have activated. I also have to worry about Amazon yanking a title from the device.

I am an honest person who agrees that artists and authors deserve to get paid for their work, so I have no interest in stealing or sharing what I buy. I find it immensely frustrating when my responsible behavior is rewarded by being forced to jump through too many hoops, and I make my purchases accordingly. This is why I buy online music from eMusic and Amazon rather than iTunes, and why I buy ebooks from fictionwise and ereader but not mobipocket or amazon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Tobias &#8211; I prefer to go without DRM, but I will go along with it if it isn&#8217;t too restrictive.</p>
<p>For example, I use eReader. Secure eReader books have to be unlocked with the credit card number that was used to purchase the book (something people are unlikely to share). There is no restriction on the number of devices I can use. I have gone through at least 6 hardware devices (handspring, 3-4 palms, ipod touch, and now a blackberry storm) and I haven&#8217;t had to mess with activating or deactivating those devices. If the device is functional when I finish with it (not always a given), I just delete the old content before passing it on. That is what I consider reasonable DRM protection.</p>
<p>The Kindle is too restrictive for my tastes. Hardware choices are limited and I have to worry about the number of devices I have activated. I also have to worry about Amazon yanking a title from the device.</p>
<p>I am an honest person who agrees that artists and authors deserve to get paid for their work, so I have no interest in stealing or sharing what I buy. I find it immensely frustrating when my responsible behavior is rewarded by being forced to jump through too many hoops, and I make my purchases accordingly. This is why I buy online music from eMusic and Amazon rather than iTunes, and why I buy ebooks from fictionwise and ereader but not mobipocket or amazon.</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The opponents to DRM are very vocal, and I&#039;d be interested in hearing views from the other side of the fence, as it were.

I don&#039;t want to start anything in the comments, and I&#039;m not lining up my guns to take you down.  I&#039;m a consumer, primarily, and it&#039;s a topic I find interesting. 

Perhaps this is in your blog archives somewhere and I&#039;ve not seen it? If not, I would find it interesting to hear a fully reasoned response to those who think that DRM is the next spawn of pick-your-devil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The opponents to DRM are very vocal, and I&#8217;d be interested in hearing views from the other side of the fence, as it were.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to start anything in the comments, and I&#8217;m not lining up my guns to take you down.  I&#8217;m a consumer, primarily, and it&#8217;s a topic I find interesting. </p>
<p>Perhaps this is in your blog archives somewhere and I&#8217;ve not seen it? If not, I would find it interesting to hear a fully reasoned response to those who think that DRM is the next spawn of pick-your-devil.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on this:

http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/108723/e-book-pricing-put-into-turmoil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on this:</p>
<p><a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/108723/e-book-pricing-put-into-turmoil" rel="nofollow">http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/108723/e-book-pricing-put-into-turmoil</a></p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Erik :-)

That was interesting and adds to the story.

I wonder if I should call my broker ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Erik <img src='http://www.lilithsaintcrow.com/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That was interesting and adds to the story.</p>
<p>I wonder if I should call my broker <img src='http://www.lilithsaintcrow.com/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gratz on the omnibus! I&#039;ll have to look into it; I&#039;ve wanted to check out the series but have drug my feet since it&#039;s a series and already all out. Excited for the more good news because it surely deals with books. :)

Agree w/ all points about Amazonfail - and it&#039;s not like Amazon US is the only division, I&#039;ve heard AmazonUK tried this with Animal Farm, of all books.

Interesting point bringing up the DRM argument - I agree with YOU. As my husband puts it, DRM is to keep the honest people honest and the lazy people lazy. It&#039;s not like the music industry where CD&#039;s were DRM free, so you could argue that eversions ought to be. A book cannot be shared simultaneously like a CD, there&#039;s no precedent for going DRM-free. It&#039;d be suicide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gratz on the omnibus! I&#8217;ll have to look into it; I&#8217;ve wanted to check out the series but have drug my feet since it&#8217;s a series and already all out. Excited for the more good news because it surely deals with books. <img src='http://www.lilithsaintcrow.com/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Agree w/ all points about Amazonfail &#8211; and it&#8217;s not like Amazon US is the only division, I&#8217;ve heard AmazonUK tried this with Animal Farm, of all books.</p>
<p>Interesting point bringing up the DRM argument &#8211; I agree with YOU. As my husband puts it, DRM is to keep the honest people honest and the lazy people lazy. It&#8217;s not like the music industry where CD&#8217;s were DRM free, so you could argue that eversions ought to be. A book cannot be shared simultaneously like a CD, there&#8217;s no precedent for going DRM-free. It&#8217;d be suicide.</p>
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		<title>By: Week 5: Daily Life in Victorian England &#171; Book-Wyrm-Knits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Week 5: Daily Life in Victorian England &#171; Book-Wyrm-Knits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I am going to briefly touch on the Amazon/MacMillan blow-up from this weekend. (For details, see Lilith Saintcrow&#8217;s blog. She gives her opinion as well as a nice set of informative links. More info can be found on Nathan [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I am going to briefly touch on the Amazon/MacMillan blow-up from this weekend. (For details, see Lilith Saintcrow&#8217;s blog. She gives her opinion as well as a nice set of informative links. More info can be found on Nathan [...]</p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Terry - here is a link to a short article on how Apple fits into this: http://gizmodo.com/5460203/the-apple+amazon-ebook-war-begins-amazon-deletes-macmillan-books</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Terry &#8211; here is a link to a short article on how Apple fits into this: <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5460203/the-apple+amazon-ebook-war-begins-amazon-deletes-macmillan-books" rel="nofollow">http://gizmodo.com/5460203/the-apple+amazon-ebook-war-begins-amazon-deletes-macmillan-books</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>err... writing, yeah, that&#039;s what I meant, &quot;keep writing&#039;! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>err&#8230; writing, yeah, that&#8217;s what I meant, &#8220;keep writing&#8217;! LOL</p>
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