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		<title>By: marley</title>
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		<dc:creator>marley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now i understand why i love your writing so much.
i did and do the exact same thing. i have really intense insomnia and  end up living stories, living worlds inside my head when most people would be dreaming. i adore the Danny Valentine books and end up re-reading them ever time i&#039;m really upset and just want to deal with the world the way Danny does. there is something calming about being able to look out of her eyes. 
because that is how it is. that is what it feels like, as if i&#039;m looking out of her eyes. it&#039;s a complete sensory experience, not simply limited to a movie, a soundtrack, or a muted film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now i understand why i love your writing so much.<br />
i did and do the exact same thing. i have really intense insomnia and  end up living stories, living worlds inside my head when most people would be dreaming. i adore the Danny Valentine books and end up re-reading them ever time i&#8217;m really upset and just want to deal with the world the way Danny does. there is something calming about being able to look out of her eyes.<br />
because that is how it is. that is what it feels like, as if i&#8217;m looking out of her eyes. it&#8217;s a complete sensory experience, not simply limited to a movie, a soundtrack, or a muted film.</p>
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		<title>By: CallyPendragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>CallyPendragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 02:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t write to save my life! That said.. I am an avid reader. Its nice to know other people see stories like movies in their heads- hear the character&#039;s voices, etc. Reading has always been that way for me, even as a young child. I&#039;ll admit that smells and sounds are probably the least of my reading experience but that may just be due to the fact that I am Deaf and so sound isn&#039;t as rich a world for me. Music- on the other hand is. I wasn&#039;t always Deaf and I still listen to music (headphones only cuz otherwise my husband would be deaf too*laugh*) and see it in my head as scenes and Signs; music is movement to me. 
Anyhow, just my two cents. I DO enjoy the worlds you create as a writer and THANK YOU for doing so!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t write to save my life! That said.. I am an avid reader. Its nice to know other people see stories like movies in their heads- hear the character&#8217;s voices, etc. Reading has always been that way for me, even as a young child. I&#8217;ll admit that smells and sounds are probably the least of my reading experience but that may just be due to the fact that I am Deaf and so sound isn&#8217;t as rich a world for me. Music- on the other hand is. I wasn&#8217;t always Deaf and I still listen to music (headphones only cuz otherwise my husband would be deaf too*laugh*) and see it in my head as scenes and Signs; music is movement to me.<br />
Anyhow, just my two cents. I DO enjoy the worlds you create as a writer and THANK YOU for doing so!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try to visualize the book&#039;s world, like seeing it through someone&#039;s eyes. That&#039;s the easy part (sometimes). The hard part is getting what&#039;s in my mind onto the page and making it easy enough for the reader to understand, all the while getting the entire environment in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to visualize the book&#8217;s world, like seeing it through someone&#8217;s eyes. That&#8217;s the easy part (sometimes). The hard part is getting what&#8217;s in my mind onto the page and making it easy enough for the reader to understand, all the while getting the entire environment in.</p>
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		<title>By: Xia Momo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xia Momo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 04:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things I loved most about Danny was that she placed great importance on the space inside your head. Ever since I can remember, that space was my sanctuary. The library sort of was a sanctuary as well, but it was more to give me ideas so I could create my own stories; a sanctuary I could take with me everywhere. 

Due to a bizarre complex, I usually think I&#039;m very unique in a lot of things I do. I was amazed to find another person who had the same thing I did, an inner sanctuary. We had great fun detailing our individual worlds to each other. Of course, we used pre-existing ones then (so, fanfiction), but now I&#039;m getting back to where I was as a child, in worlds I made up. Once things settle down in my life, I will actually buckle down and write them out.

The only thing for me is that I usually have a hard time visualizing faces. If a director were to ask me if they could make my story into a movie, I would have no idea who to pick for the actors. Everything else usually is pretty detailed. I unfortunately don&#039;t have the discipline to have it super detailed in my mind, but I manage to write it out anyway. The thing that&#039;s usually most strong is the emotions in my inner movie theater. I will play scenes over and over again, focusing on the reactions, thoughts and feelings of the characters. I also focus on the exact intonation of the voices, even though I know I&#039;ll never convey it exactly.

Thanks for writing this; it certainly is food for thought. 

By the way, I just want to say that I love your blog. Before I started reading it, writing was a sporadic hobby. But you&#039;ve inspired me to want to do it for a living, not to mention you&#039;ve been a role model in other ways. I know that&#039;s kind of off-topic, but I just wanted to say thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things I loved most about Danny was that she placed great importance on the space inside your head. Ever since I can remember, that space was my sanctuary. The library sort of was a sanctuary as well, but it was more to give me ideas so I could create my own stories; a sanctuary I could take with me everywhere. </p>
<p>Due to a bizarre complex, I usually think I&#8217;m very unique in a lot of things I do. I was amazed to find another person who had the same thing I did, an inner sanctuary. We had great fun detailing our individual worlds to each other. Of course, we used pre-existing ones then (so, fanfiction), but now I&#8217;m getting back to where I was as a child, in worlds I made up. Once things settle down in my life, I will actually buckle down and write them out.</p>
<p>The only thing for me is that I usually have a hard time visualizing faces. If a director were to ask me if they could make my story into a movie, I would have no idea who to pick for the actors. Everything else usually is pretty detailed. I unfortunately don&#8217;t have the discipline to have it super detailed in my mind, but I manage to write it out anyway. The thing that&#8217;s usually most strong is the emotions in my inner movie theater. I will play scenes over and over again, focusing on the reactions, thoughts and feelings of the characters. I also focus on the exact intonation of the voices, even though I know I&#8217;ll never convey it exactly.</p>
<p>Thanks for writing this; it certainly is food for thought. </p>
<p>By the way, I just want to say that I love your blog. Before I started reading it, writing was a sporadic hobby. But you&#8217;ve inspired me to want to do it for a living, not to mention you&#8217;ve been a role model in other ways. I know that&#8217;s kind of off-topic, but I just wanted to say thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Cora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 03:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always been able to see stories as movies in my head, both my own and those I&#039;m reading. I see the characters and the scenery, I watch them move about, I can hear the dialogue and know what their voices sound like.

I assumed everybody experienced story that way, just as I assumed that everybody saw mini-movies in their head when they listened to music (which is why I never got the point of music videos - the movies in my head were so much better). In fact, I was quite stunned when I found out that most people do not experience story or music that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always been able to see stories as movies in my head, both my own and those I&#8217;m reading. I see the characters and the scenery, I watch them move about, I can hear the dialogue and know what their voices sound like.</p>
<p>I assumed everybody experienced story that way, just as I assumed that everybody saw mini-movies in their head when they listened to music (which is why I never got the point of music videos &#8211; the movies in my head were so much better). In fact, I was quite stunned when I found out that most people do not experience story or music that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 02:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that&#039;s quite like the way I work. Each scene is a movie. Every sound, smell, and visual effect is there for me to play, pause, or pan around within.

I might have 150 alien characters sitting around in a spaceport bar while 5 more carry on a conversation, but I can look inside all their heads to read their thoughts and backstories if the tale needs that sort of detail.

But the real reason I looked for one of your posts today is the blasted screaming uncertainty I went through after finishing a completed rough first draft of one part of a two part story last night. You were absolutely right about the bam, bam, bam of beating one&#039;s head against a brick wall thinking that the story isn&#039;t going to fit neatly into the concept of same that was its starting point. What I finished last night is good. What I outlined when I came up with the idea for the two parter is far less so. In short, there&#039;s no way I&#039;m going to be able to make what I wrote fit into the framework of what I *planned* to have written. I don&#039;t want to throw the original idea away, but what I ended up with is far better than what I outlined. And no publisher in their right mind is going to read through my original concept of what I wanted for part one to get to the really excellent part two that I finished last night. Why did I write pt 2 before pt 1? I thought I might come up with stuff to forshadow and extra character backstory that would make pt 1 better.

This is a very frightening feeling: realizing that the finished 1st draft is nothing like the original idea, better than the original idea, and isn&#039;t going to fit with the original outline of the *rest* of the story that I still need to write. I&#039;m not asking you what I should do. I know what I need to do is to scrap the outline and let the story evolve on its own terms.

What I&#039;m doing, in my long-winded way, is trying to thank you for warning me that this sort of emotional upset is normal for a writer to go through when they reach certain points in a manuscript. Without the advice to writers that you&#039;ve offered in your blog over the last couple of years, I&#039;d probably think I was nuts and just scrap the whole story as a failed attempt. Instead, I know that these doubts and second-guessing thoughts are normal, and will pass in a short while.

Thanks for having broken a trail for others to find. Remembering what you&#039;ve written in your blog posts has helped me stay sane today.

Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s quite like the way I work. Each scene is a movie. Every sound, smell, and visual effect is there for me to play, pause, or pan around within.</p>
<p>I might have 150 alien characters sitting around in a spaceport bar while 5 more carry on a conversation, but I can look inside all their heads to read their thoughts and backstories if the tale needs that sort of detail.</p>
<p>But the real reason I looked for one of your posts today is the blasted screaming uncertainty I went through after finishing a completed rough first draft of one part of a two part story last night. You were absolutely right about the bam, bam, bam of beating one&#8217;s head against a brick wall thinking that the story isn&#8217;t going to fit neatly into the concept of same that was its starting point. What I finished last night is good. What I outlined when I came up with the idea for the two parter is far less so. In short, there&#8217;s no way I&#8217;m going to be able to make what I wrote fit into the framework of what I *planned* to have written. I don&#8217;t want to throw the original idea away, but what I ended up with is far better than what I outlined. And no publisher in their right mind is going to read through my original concept of what I wanted for part one to get to the really excellent part two that I finished last night. Why did I write pt 2 before pt 1? I thought I might come up with stuff to forshadow and extra character backstory that would make pt 1 better.</p>
<p>This is a very frightening feeling: realizing that the finished 1st draft is nothing like the original idea, better than the original idea, and isn&#8217;t going to fit with the original outline of the *rest* of the story that I still need to write. I&#8217;m not asking you what I should do. I know what I need to do is to scrap the outline and let the story evolve on its own terms.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m doing, in my long-winded way, is trying to thank you for warning me that this sort of emotional upset is normal for a writer to go through when they reach certain points in a manuscript. Without the advice to writers that you&#8217;ve offered in your blog over the last couple of years, I&#8217;d probably think I was nuts and just scrap the whole story as a failed attempt. Instead, I know that these doubts and second-guessing thoughts are normal, and will pass in a short while.</p>
<p>Thanks for having broken a trail for others to find. Remembering what you&#8217;ve written in your blog posts has helped me stay sane today.</p>
<p>Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Corvidae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine Corvidae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not surprised to hear it&#039;s this way for you; one of the things I love about your books is the description transports me to into your world with such wonderful clarity. 

Writing for me has always been a 3D, technicolor, surround sound experience, and I remember being shocked when I learned it isn&#039;t that way for everyone. I know the way the air smells in a particular scene; I feel the texture of the clothing the character is wearing; I hear that little catch in their voice as they tell a not-quite-truth to the one the they love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not surprised to hear it&#8217;s this way for you; one of the things I love about your books is the description transports me to into your world with such wonderful clarity. </p>
<p>Writing for me has always been a 3D, technicolor, surround sound experience, and I remember being shocked when I learned it isn&#8217;t that way for everyone. I know the way the air smells in a particular scene; I feel the texture of the clothing the character is wearing; I hear that little catch in their voice as they tell a not-quite-truth to the one the they love.</p>
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		<title>By: Bren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m fairly sound-oriented when it comes to my writing, but mostly I feel them--I was a dancer growing up, so I&#039;m very motion-oriented. I always know exactly how my characters move, exactly when they nod/bite their lip/cock their head, how they stand, etc. I&#039;m not a visual person at all (and I often skip or skim description in books because so much of it is visual so it just doesn&#039;t really speak to me) so I&#039;m often not very good at describing the scenery. It&#039;s one of the things I&#039;ve been trying to work on, but I doubt it&#039;ll ever be my best skill. I just don&#039;t think that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fairly sound-oriented when it comes to my writing, but mostly I feel them&#8211;I was a dancer growing up, so I&#8217;m very motion-oriented. I always know exactly how my characters move, exactly when they nod/bite their lip/cock their head, how they stand, etc. I&#8217;m not a visual person at all (and I often skip or skim description in books because so much of it is visual so it just doesn&#8217;t really speak to me) so I&#8217;m often not very good at describing the scenery. It&#8217;s one of the things I&#8217;ve been trying to work on, but I doubt it&#8217;ll ever be my best skill. I just don&#8217;t think that way.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just reading a section of The Philosopher&#039;s Secret Fire by Patrick Harpur in which he talks about the poetic imagination (in this case, Shakespeare&#039;s) as a kind of shamanistic training.  The shaman, or writer, is triggered by some cataclysmic event in their life to go into a kind of dream state, a highly detailed, highly realized imagination.  Once there, they interact directly with the zeitgeist, the psyche, the soul of the age, which shapes their working imagination to enact the central myths of their age and hold a mirror up to their society.  All covered over in metaphor, of course.  Mirrors can&#039;t be direct reflections in fiction, I don&#039;t suppose.  

The process you describe reminds me of that, and of John and Caitlin Matthews&#039; writings on shamanism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just reading a section of The Philosopher&#8217;s Secret Fire by Patrick Harpur in which he talks about the poetic imagination (in this case, Shakespeare&#8217;s) as a kind of shamanistic training.  The shaman, or writer, is triggered by some cataclysmic event in their life to go into a kind of dream state, a highly detailed, highly realized imagination.  Once there, they interact directly with the zeitgeist, the psyche, the soul of the age, which shapes their working imagination to enact the central myths of their age and hold a mirror up to their society.  All covered over in metaphor, of course.  Mirrors can&#8217;t be direct reflections in fiction, I don&#8217;t suppose.  </p>
<p>The process you describe reminds me of that, and of John and Caitlin Matthews&#8217; writings on shamanism.</p>
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