Glitch, Ranking, And Porn, #amazonfail
Links first, and then the meat.
* ScienceBlogs’ Janet Stemwedel on AmazonFail, very worth reading.
* NYT has “discovered” Twitter.
* Jezebel with another thoughtful update. I just like Jezebel more and more all the time.
* And SmartBitches with a three-pointer from downtown.
I know I’ve said it ad nauseum, but it bears repeating. Why does Amazon have sales ranks at all if they’re going to “game the system” by deranking books? By now it is well established that there was a policy of deranking “adult” books as early as February. If those books are selling at all, why strip them of their sales ranks?
Do not tell me it is to protect the tender feelings of those who shop at Amazon–those who are over 18, have their own credit/debit cards, and can close a bloody browser window if they see Lady Chatterley coming over the hill. (Pun kind of intended.) The sales ranks were only a logical base for “You Might Like” algorithms OR for consumer information if we trusted they weren’t being gamed.
The second component to my mistrust has been boiling ever since AmazonFail first broke. Where is Amazon’s response? On one level the absence of any communication from the biggest online retailer (the one that made its fortune being ahead of the Internet curve) says that maybe they were scrambling to find someone who could Deal With The Situation. But come on. This is a billion-dollar company with PR flacks. The silence seems intentional, and it seems utterly unlikely that the best they could do was a faint whisper of “glitch” on PW. The evident paralysis could be a combination of Easter weekend (though the timing–the massive deranking happening on a holiday weekend and all–is circumstantially fishy enough) and a type of “hand caught in the cookie jar”. Amazon must have believed they would not get caught, because so far their deranking had gone smoothly.
Not only that, but we have a lack of ANY APOLOGY AT ALL. If Amazon fucked up, all they had to do was say, “We messed up, we apologize, here is what we are doing to fix it.” Instantly three-quarters of the brouhaha fades and a great many people will take a deep breath and say, “Oh they apologized, maybe it wasn’t intentional…” Which was a strand commonly heard even in the heat of AmazonFail, during twenty tweets every twelve seconds for hours and hours. No apology? They had a policy in place for responding to small-press erotica or GLBT authors who protested being deranked in February, but no response now? Hand in cookie jar, blushing and stammering. Real confusion and innocence would have been a little, well, louder.
The third and biggest component to my mistrust is the targeted nature of the derankings. GLBT in general. Disability issues, especially around the thorny questions of sex and disability. Gay parenting. Rape trauma, suicide prevention among gay teens.
If these things had category code words that were targeted as part of a truly innocent fuckup, why didn’t homophobia in the form of the odious “teach your children not to be gay” book that was #1 in the Homosexuality category get deranked? Right-wing fundie nonsense, Playboy and Penthouse, het porn stars–these were left alone. I’ve seen Jane’s spreadsheet over at Dear Author, and it seems to me the data points to something targeted a little too finely to be innocent. How, precisely, did books with exactly the same words, same categories, etc., EXCEPT a right-wing or fundie slant, get left behind?
There was an agenda here married to stupidity, and the institutional stupidity that overstepped its planned-for bounds should not blind us to the agenda. Whether it was squeezing out small-press erotica and GLBT authors until they agreed to go through Amazon’s POD service (something that has been nagging in the back of my head for a little while) or a clumsy attempt at net-nannying that got blown way past common sense in middle management or during a Starbucks-fueled meeting one day and just snowballed before being hijacked for someone’s agenda (what I think is a little more likely) OR Amazon caving to pressure to get “adult” books (translation: anything the truly hideous “Focus On The Family” set can find to disagree with) safely squeezed out of the biggest online retailer…well, none of these is an appetizing explanation.
Here’s another thing I’m kicking around inside my noggin: if there is so much filthy filthy porn that it’s choking up Amazon’s bestseller lists, who is really in the majority here? People who are shocked and horrified at anything remotely sexual, or people who (as people have since recorded history began) will buy porn, more and more when they’re more and more repressed?
Yes, I know. The whole point of this was a disproportionate and clumsy wide-brush spasm by Amazon, deranking things like Heather Has Two Mommies and Maurice while leaving Penthouse and Playboy centerfolds and Ron Jeremy’s autobiography. But the ancillary question I can’t stop mulling is: who is really in the majority here? The MSM perception of the conservative fundie message as the norm is cracking under the strain of transparency about what people are ACTUALLY buying. Is this whole mess a symptom of that, and a symptom of discomfort over said transparency?
I’m still mulling all this over. And waiting for a response from Amazon with some actual, you know, information in it. It had damn well better include an apology, too. With as much as I spend on books in a year, Barnes and Noble and Alibris, not to mention Powell’s and Booksamillion, will be very happy to have me. Not to mention my closest local indie bookseller.
Viva la Internets.
ETA: An Amazon employee anonymously talks to Seattle PI. Hmmm. One field “accidentally” flipped?
1. Amazon Censors Search Rankings To “Protect” Us
2. This Is Not A Glitch
3. Still Not A Glitch, But A Policy
4. (Update) Idiosyncratic Code?
5. Why I’m Bothering With AmazonFail
6. (Update) Seattle PI releases Amazon statement
7. Glitch, Ranking, & Porn
8. Days Later, Still AmazonFail
9. Glitch, Monoculture, Profit (AmazonFail Recap)
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- Days Later, Still #amazonfail
- Seattle PI has new #amazonfail statement
- This Is Not A Glitch, #amazonfail
Tags: amazonfail, we are not amused


April 13th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
First: I find the whole idea of blaming the language barrier laughable, though I don’t think the amazon reps did so, rather some of the “unnamed employees.”
Second:
“intend to .. make this kind of accident less likely to occur in the future.”
1. This is not an apology.
2. This is not a retraction of the policy of de-ranking bestselling books because of a moral judgment call that as far as I am concerned, Amazon is not qualified to make on my (admittedly relatively newly, @ 21) adult behalf.
Unfortunately, while Amazon’s statement MIGHT address the GLBT angle, it doesn’t address the stuff that I, personally, am more bugged by. I’m not GLBT. While I studied feminism in college, I doubt I’ll be writing any more theses on the subject. What angers me, and what Amazon isn’t addressing, much less retracting (much less apologizing for) is:
- we think it’s totally okay to categorize some books as “adult” (okay, fine, categorization is problematical but useful)
- we think it’s totally okay to remove the sales ranks and thus directly impact the livelihoods of the authors of “adult” books
- we’re totally okay with making it harder to find a book we would otherwise think you would want, because (our computers) think it’s adult content
- we have shoddy customer service that can’t find its **** with a homing beacon
Also I’d just like to say thanks for covering this in detail, and for taking time out of your very busy day to keep the rest of us succinctly up to date via a source I, at least, feel I can trust, without making me run around to piece it all together myself (not that I haven’t been doing that most of the day, but well, classes are a downer and you’ve helped fill in the pieces).
A lot of my friends follow feministing, etc, but I just find you more relatable, and truthfully closer to a role model, so thank you.
April 13th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Lilith, you have been awesome about keeping us up to date on this, and you’ve also kept your awesome sense of humor about it, too even thought I know you’re as pissed as the rest of us. Thanks so much.
This whole freaking situation is idiotic, honestly, and in some ways, I’m somewhat ashamed to be from the Seattle area. (although, if this isn’t fixed by Thursday, I swear, I’m gonna take something and throw it at their offices when I’m over there! …. I wonder if I threw those apples that were going bad away out of the van….. /distraction… Don’t MESS with a pissed off vet with PTSD! LOL)
Seriously, though, you’ve been a great source that I’ve known I can trust, and between you and Feministing, I’ve been able to keep up on most of this. I’ve cancelled my Amazon account, but not before I changed my ‘profile’ to say
“Until such time as Amazon can pull their collective heads out of their ARSES and realize the GLBT community, and the feminist community are not to “adult” for the general populace, and that we’re not going away any time soon, I will not be using my amazon account.”
Now I’m off to follow the links you left us at the top of this here, particularly the SmartBitches one… I like them.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:03 am
Once again, thanks very much for the update.
I feel the same mistrust of Amazon as you do, for much the same reasons.
This post is interesting, though the source is unverified.
April 14th, 2009 at 4:51 am
I find it awfully hard to believe that a language barrier caused this bruhaha…please. If this really is the case then it’s time to give me a straight jacket. Coz to be brutally honest I’d rather believe Aliens live at No 10 Downing Street.
Once again thank you for keepingf us in the know.
April 14th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Assuming I feel like buying the explanation that the French language is to blame, why on earth would I want to trust a company that is incapable of keeping a “translation” problem from wreaking massive havoc with a central feature of its sales structure? (Plus that whole “oh yeah it was just France causing problems haha” explanation doesn’t really tell us why there’s an adult-deranking policy in place back as far as February.)
I’ll stick with Powell’s.
April 14th, 2009 at 10:36 am
I came here because I knew you’d have a post on this – and that it would be a well-researched one with lots of information and opinion. I’m so glad you do! I was astonished when I heard that Amazon was censoring GLBT literature as “adult” and essentially pornography not fit for the sensitive eyes of the widdle bitty adult Americans…. I saw a post somewhere where someone said how well this shows the power of one company on an entire industry. How true.
April 14th, 2009 at 10:43 am
I’ve been following this relatively closely (and your updates have been a HUGE help, so thank you!!!!), and I just came across the story on CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/14/amazon.gay.lesbian.ranking/
Much the same as what every other news outlet is saying, but what struck me is the comments section: I was completely taken aback by all the “Rah, rah censorship!” posts on there. Seriously, what is WRONG with society these days? It makes me sad.
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